Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.anoxinon.de/@gnulinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gnulinux</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a>, genauer gesagt:</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bionic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bionic</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a></p>
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Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mk.asie.pl/@asie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>asie</span></a></span> wow.</p><p>Granted, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ELKS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ELKS</span></a> really is a <em>"subset"</em> and can't do much on it's own, but if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> was even remotely an option, I'm shure you would've tried that.</p>
JdeBP<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://epistolary.org/@target" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>target</span></a></span> </p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wandering.shop/@cstross" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cstross</span></a></span> isn't even joking, I think.</p><p>Both BusyBox and ToyBox actually do have an init program, a getty program, and a login program.</p><p>BusyBox also has the Almquist shell. ToyBox has a Landley shell. BusyBox even has runit.</p><p>It is possible to have a system where even if you are doing various things in a shell you're just invoking the same program image over and over, using all of the same code that is there in process #1.</p><p><a href="https://tty0.social/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BusyBox</span></a> <a href="https://tty0.social/tags/ToyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToyBox</span></a> <a href="https://tty0.social/tags/runit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>runit</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaosfem.tw/@freya" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>freya</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@BrodieOnLinux" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>BrodieOnLinux</span></a></span> same with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> ...</p><p>It's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GNUfree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GNUfree</span></a>-ness is a goal, because it's a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> distro!</p><ul><li>I just haven't got the time to change it over from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GCC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GCC</span></a> to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LLVM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LLVM</span></a>...</li></ul>
OS/1337<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@musl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>musl</span></a></span> Any info if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> are affected?</p><p>Cc: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.kernel.org/users/torvalds" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torvalds</span></a></span></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://my.softerhearts.club/@natalie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>natalie</span></a></span> consider it with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> or like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkroot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mkroot</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a>) for 80x25 glory!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/@lavxnews" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>lavxnews</span></a></span> point is: <em>"reinventing the wheel"</em> is rarely easy nor worth the effort.</p><ul><li>Shure one <em>can</em> design their own OS or Kernel but the cost of doing so rarely makes sense.</li></ul><p>That's why I use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> for <br>OS/1337 ...</p><ul><li>Same reason why <em>noone</em> spins their own <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>encryption</span></a>, except here it's a matter if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a> and thus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CopSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CopSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>!</li></ul><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS1337" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OS1337</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@bagder" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bagder</span></a></span> Problem with that is (besides occasional bugfixes), most people including myself would see <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/curl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>curl</span></a> to be <em>functionally complete</em> and anything <em>"nice to have"</em> would be considered not worth the balooning in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/complexity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>complexity</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/size" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>size</span></a>. </p><ul><li><p>I mean, does <a href="https://curl.se/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">curl</a> <em>need</em> to be able to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a> (magnet:), <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a> (ipfs://) or god forbid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/blockchain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>blockchain</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EVM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EVM</span></a>) support? </p></li><li><p>Do you really want to integrate <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> support <em>natively into curl</em> when using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTTP</span></a> (localhost:8118) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SOCKS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SOCKS5</span></a> (localhost:9050) <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/proxy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>proxy</span></a> allows for the same and doesn't necessitate having to handle and ingest Tor arguments as well??</p></li></ul><p>In fact if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> didn't have a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wget" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wget</span></a> implementation that I could use for OS/1337 I would've merely chosen <a href="https://curl.se/tiny/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>tiny-curl -o</code></a> as a <a href="https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30702803/set-aliases-globally-for-all-users" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">global alias</a> or if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tinycurl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tinycurl</span></a> wasn't an option, <a href="https://linux.die.net/man/1/curl" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>curl -o</code></a> instead.</p><ul><li>Maybe someone who wants to have said functionality like <code>tor</code> support built-in will go and IDK make i.e. <code>#neocurl</code> or sth. along those lines or build something like <code>#ethcurl</code> or <code>#torcurl</code>or <code>#ipfscurl</code> or whatever...</li></ul><p>That being said I am glad <code>curl</code> isn't <em>solely</em> maintained by you but has other contributors (give them a shoutout!) but I also am glad you maintain that vital software that most <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>"</em> most likely never heard of but propably use on a daily basis as part of all the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> they use to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consume" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>consume</span></a> media with...</p><ul><li>I consider curl to be <em>"the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vim</span></a> of downloaders"</em> (tho that's kinda insulting and limiting since <code>curl</code> is more than just a downloader <em>and</em> more intuitive than <code>vim</code>) with wget being <em>"the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vi</span></a> of downloaders"</em> (tho <code>wget</code> is even simpler to use than <code>vi</code>)...</li></ul><p>Either way, curl is awesome... </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OS1337" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OS1337</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Enshittification" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Enshittification</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bloat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bloat</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Bloatware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bloatware</span></a></p>
Rock Paper Shotgun<p>I can't bear to play much of free horror game Toy Box, but I love the concept of pulling talking toys apart - <a href="https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/i-cant-bear-to-play-much-of-free-horror-game-toy-box-but-i-love-the-concept-of-pulling-talking-toys-apart" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">rockpapershotgun.com/i-cant-be</span><span class="invisible">ar-to-play-much-of-free-horror-game-toy-box-but-i-love-the-concept-of-pulling-talking-toys-apart</span></a> <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/VisualNovel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VisualNovel</span></a>&Dating; <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/Horror" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Horror</span></a> <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/ToyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToyBox</span></a> <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/Puzzle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Puzzle</span></a> <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/Indie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Indie</span></a> <a href="https://die-partei.social/tags/PC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PC</span></a></p>
Ronnie / Rekkerd.org<p>Toybox releases FM Zone synthesizer for desktop & iOS <a href="https://rekkerd.org/toybox-releases-fm-zone-synthesizer-for-desktop-ios/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">rekkerd.org/toybox-releases-fm</span><span class="invisible">-zone-synthesizer-for-desktop-ios/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AU</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/iPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iPad</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Synthesizer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Synthesizer</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Toybox</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/VST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VST</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ravirockks" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ravirockks</span></a></span> OFC they don't.</p><ul><li>And by <em>"don't</em> I don't mean <em>"teach <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/assembly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>assembly</span></a> and CPU architectures"</em> but <em>anything that goes beyond <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinusTechTips" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinusTechTips</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tutorials" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tutorials</span></a></em>...</li></ul><p>At best they show people how to change fan curves in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UEFI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UEFI</span></a> or hiw to run <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/memtest86" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>memtest86</span></a>+, but mostly they just <em>"teach" people how to consume <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> and at best <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/macOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>macOS</span></a></em> and that's it.</p><ul><li>I mean I don't expect any training center to teach people how to build <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkroot" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mkroot</span></a> (<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a>) or <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LinuxFromScratch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LinuxFromScratch</span></a> but at least showing people how to use <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails_live</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tails</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tails</span></a> should be in the cards if <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLES" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SLES</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SLED" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SLED</span></a> isn't.</li></ul><p>Same with <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@libreoffice" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>libreoffice</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LibreOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LibreOffice</span></a> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Thunderbird" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Thunderbird</span></a>.</p><ul><li>At least the most pointless certification - <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ECDL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ECDL</span></a> - isn't hard-locked to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftOffice" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftOffice</span></a> <em>per-se</em>!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://expressional.social/@notsoloud" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>notsoloud</span></a></span> same with all other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> distros.</p><ul><li>Guess why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NORAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NORAD</span></a> used <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BusyBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BusyBox</span></a> and why I started my own minimalist, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GNUfree" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GNUfree</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/musl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>musl</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> distro: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> ...</li></ul><p>Now granted, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NvChad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NvChad</span></a> is basically what happens when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/neovim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>neovim</span></a> fans want to make a better alternative to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>emacs</span></a>.</p><ul><li>Personally, I only put it ob a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/wishlist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>wishlist</span></a> <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/pkgs/blob/main/docs/WISHLIST.tsv#L11" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">of sorts</a> because I want to make a 80x25-optimized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TUI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TUI</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Desktop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Desktop</span></a> easier to accomplish.</li></ul><p>For most people, using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/fish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fish</span></a> as in <a href="https://fishshell.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fish shell</a> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tmux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tmux</span></a> and some extras could yield the same...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://brotka.st/users/kaia" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kaia</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://shigusegubu.club/users/hj" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>hj</span></a></span> @why@shitposter.world Well, AFAIK <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/vi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vi</span></a> is in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LSB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LSB</span></a> and not only does <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CentOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CentOS</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RHEL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RHEL</span></a> come with it, even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> comes with a <a href="http://landley.net/toybox/status.html#part" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">partially complete</a> vi implementation...</p><ul><li>Personally I do intent to ship <a href="https://github.com/antirez/kilo" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>kilo</code></a> on <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> and package <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@neovim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>neovim@hachyderm.io</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://programming.dev/c/neovim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>neovim@programming.dev</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/neovim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>neovim</span></a> and potentially <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NvChad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NvChad</span></a> <a href="https://nvchad.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for it</a> because it's fecking <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4OyfL5o7DU" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">awesome</a>, just like <a href="http://fishshell.com/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><code>fish</code></a> is cool.</li></ul><p>Re: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ubuntu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ubuntu</span></a> I do use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nano" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nano</span></a> on it sonce it comes preinstalled and I rarely need it anyway.</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Granted, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> won't run on anything below an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i486SX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>i486SX</span></a> due to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Linux</span></a> dropping <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i386" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>i386</span></a> with <a href="https://github.com/OS-1337/OS1337/blob/70f7c419db6e2ba13f720913bc4237ca165136e8/docu/linux.kernel.versions.tsv#L2" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kernel 3.6.9 & 3.4.99 respectably</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toybox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>toybox</span></a> AFAICT never supported anything below <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/i486" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>i486</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/backporting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>backporting</span></a> it doesn't make sense nor do I have the skills to do so nor would I expect <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> to accept the necessary patches:</p><ul><li>Similar to Linux this would create a shitload of work that noone wants to do nor should do and thus violate the project goals of toybox by complicating things...</li></ul><p>Or as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.kernel.org/users/torvalds" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torvalds</span></a></span> <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/good-bye-386-linux-to-drop-support-for-i386-chips-with-next-major-release/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">once supposedly wrote</a>: <em>"I'm not sentimental. Good riddance."</em>...</p>
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