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Here, @pluralistic neatly distills the real problem with Bluesky ...
... which is that, because they don't offer a way to quickly leave *and take all your followers with you*, as Mastodon does ...
... it risks becoming a trap. You spend months, years, building up connections to tons of cool people ...
... and then Bluesky enshittifies, not because of any individual terrible decision, but because of a ton of small forced-hand ones
The essay: https://pluralistic.net/2024/11/02/ulysses-pact/#tie-yourself-to-a-federated-mast
For folks still on Twitter -- or who are trying to reconstitute their networks on Bluesky or Threads -- probably/possibly the most persuasive part of @pluralistic's argument ...
... is that these non-portable/can't-leave-with-your-followers services are just a huge *risk* to use
How many hours, days, years will you sink into finding and cultivating a collection of awesome people?
That's time your risk uttetrly *wasting* if you can't leave
how much time do we have to *waste*?
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I would like to use Bluesky. They've done a bunch of seriously interesting technical work on moderation and ranking that I truly admire, and I've got lots of friends there who really enjoy it.
But I'm not on Bluesky and I don't have any plans to join it anytime soon. I wrote about this in 2023: I will never again devote my energies to building up an audience on a platform whose management can sever my relationship to that audience at will
[Note: the final sentence in this screenshot is highlighted in blue]](https://sb-9g02l2bbpw.b-cdn.net/media_attachments/files/113/431/570/231/864/894/original/dc79b9e81605f2bf.png "Screenshot reading:
I would like to use Bluesky. They've done a bunch of seriously interesting technical work on moderation and ranking that I truly admire, and I've got lots of friends there who really enjoy it.
But I'm not on Bluesky and I don't have any plans to join it anytime soon. I wrote about this in 2023: I will never again devote my energies to building up an audience on a platform whose management can sever my relationship to that audience at will
[Note: the final sentence in this screenshot is highlighted in blue]")
@clive
Except is that really true? My understanding is you can now create an independent Bsky instance and you can migrate between them taking your followers with you and unlike ActivityPub all your posts go with you too.
The risk is that kind of like Threads muscling in on ActivityPub, the 2,000 pound gorilla in the room with all the user base and money tends to dominate the conversation when it comes to protocol evolution and defacto standards.
@pluralistic
@pluralistic @clive very interesting, thanks for sharing - I wasn't aware it was that complicated. Tim Bray's article also had some good links about Bluesky... https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2024/11/15/Not-Bluesky