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Problems we are having with #Signal:
* It is and will remain centralized (clear strategy of *not* federating servers)
* It requires strong identifiers/selectors (phone#) to use
* Author disallows distribution by anyone but Google, although free/libre
* It keeps pushing away verification of fingerprint in interface
* It relies on Google+Amazon infrastructure
* Its funding is shady (OTF = Radio Free Asia = USG)
= clearly unethical choices, unjustifiable by accessibility or technological reasons.
Hi Jérémie, Thank you for your work.
Is Wire better ?
@jz what do you mean by "It keeps pushing away verification of fingerprint in interface"?
There is a feature to verify a conversation hash/QRCode when physically meeting the correspondant — so I suppose you are speaking of something else.
@turb The verify feature used to be within the conversation, starting with a healthy warning "your conversation has not been verified yet, do it". now it is not displayed, like if safety was assumed by default.. and you have to go into *4 (four!)* clicks before you can find this feature now "conversation settings, scroll down, etc." where it is called "view safety blah" not even "verify..."... If UI were to be used to discourage from doing it, it would exactly look like this.
very bad practice.
@jz Hi jz, is it a recent evolution or is it the same from day one?
@thermomaitre It has kind-of enshitified over time:
- the banning of free/libre software distribution through f-droid was about 2015-16
- in 2016 Moxie promised that they were working on making #signal usable wihout a phone number... since then Signal users got fancy sticker packs and a cyber-ponzi (aka "cwypto, bro!") scheme...
- along time (2019) came the justifications as to why it wouldnt federate etc ("the lol-ecosystem is lol-moving, lol")
@jz Thanks for the info... Which should be widely spread out by the way.