Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</em></a></p><ul><li><p>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TeamSpeak</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> for that matter.</p></li><li><p>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Forum</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>paywalled</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>voicechat</span></a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> & Mumble & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a>!</p></li></ul><p>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dread</span></a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moderation</span></a> tools.</p><ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.</p><p>I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does <em>everything but horrible</em> to go with multiple <em>smaller & good tools</em></p><ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Documentation</span></a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mkDocs</span></a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul><p>Check <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>european_alternatives</span></a></span> for options.</p>
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Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rubdos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rubdos</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ts-new</span></a></span></p><p>I agree, that there is no server-side meta data protection on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>. But it compensates by</p><p>1. impede mass data surveillance, thanks to federation, and</p><p>2. making multiple accounts, incl. anonymous and burner accounts, very easy.</p><p>Note, that most <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> clients do default to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> E2EE "on" now. It took a long time, though.</p>
Daniel Gultsch<p>A big thank you to Radically Open Security for performing the audit and to <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.nlnet.nl/@nlnet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nlnet</span></a></span> for funding it.</p><p>Radically Open Security has been a long term partner of <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/Conversations_im" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Conversations_im</span></a> ever since they did the first <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> audit back in 2016!</p><p>Recent audit: <a href="https://conversations.im/2025_audit_conversations.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">conversations.im/2025_audit_co</span><span class="invisible">nversations.pdf</span></a><br>OMEMO audit: <a href="https://conversations.im/omemo/audit.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">conversations.im/omemo/audit.p</span><span class="invisible">df</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Blaumensch1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Blaumensch1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> nein.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGG</span></a>/MIME mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> und Anbietern in der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a>, die keine Niederlassung, Geschäftsrätigkeit oder Anteilseigner aus den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> haben.</p><p>Bspw.: <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> und <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DeltaChat</span></a>.</p><ul><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> greift für alle die in den <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> agieren oder dort ne Dependance/Mutter-/Tochtergesellschaft haben!</li></ul>
Daniel Gultsch<p>Looks like Dino is enabling <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> by default for the next release¹. I think that was the last of the major <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> clients to do so. Hopefully we can now put the "But XMPP is not encrypted by default" debate to rest.</p><p>¹: <a href="https://github.com/dino/dino/commit/fc6447c56e7fdaf6f6d843a2215d870caee4aba0" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">github.com/dino/dino/commit/fc</span><span class="invisible">6447c56e7fdaf6f6d843a2215d870caee4aba0</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.uno/@Madmonkey" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Madmonkey</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://livellosegreto.it/@kenobit" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kenobit</span></a></span></p><p>Sorry, if I misintpret your post, trying to understand Italian based on my mediocre Spanish 🙂</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> itself does not define <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/e2ee" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>e2ee</span></a>, but almost all clients do support <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> encryption, which is more or less copied from Signal.</p><p>In addition, you can choose a trustworthy provider, such a <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/cooperative" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cooperative</span></a> or club.</p><p>Maybe for that reasons, German <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/police" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>police</span></a> seems to believe (wrongly), that <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> (the traditional name of XMPP) were "the first pillar of <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/cybercrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cybercrime</span></a>"!</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/UseJabberDoCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UseJabberDoCrime</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://darmstadt.social/@stormii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stormii</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@karl_ist_super" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>karl_ist_super</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> würd' ich mir auch nicht geben...</p><p>Nutze seit 15+ Jahren nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@joo4mart" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>joo4mart</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@phreaknerd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phreaknerd</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@melsdung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>melsdung</span></a></span> Ja und entgegen <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://punk.cyber77.de/@nocci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nocci</span></a></span>'s reply liefer ich <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@joo4mart/114296078844129155" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>"Praktikable Lösungen"</em></a> auch.</p><ul><li>Wenn <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a> sich nen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NSAbook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NSAbook</span></a> oder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Freemailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freemailer</span></a>-Account anlegen können, dann können die sich auch nen <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> - Account machen oder jeden beliebigen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>-Client einrichten lassen.</li></ul><p>Ich helfe auch gern, nur gegen Unwillen und Faulheit kann ich nicht agieren.</p><ul><li>Besonders wenn ich weder dafür bezahlt noch dazu authorisiert bin als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WohlwollenderDiktator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WohlwollenderDiktator</span></a> entsprechendes durchzusetzen!</li></ul><p>Gibt <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> für jene die sich drum scheren.</p><ul><li>Den Rest bestrachte ich als <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Risiko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Risiko</span></a> in Sachen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a>, und leider hat meine Lebenserfahrung mir damit bisher immer Recht gegeben!</li></ul><p><em>Macht doch was ihr wollt aber heult nicht wenn vorhersehbare Konsequenzen weh tun!</em></p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/thxbye" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>thxbye</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EOD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EOD</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@phreaknerd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phreaknerd</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@melsdung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>melsdung</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://punk.cyber77.de/@nocci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nocci</span></a></span> exakt deshalb rate ich zu <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> ( <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> ) sowie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME ( <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> & <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thunderbird</span></a></span> ), denn nur <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dezentral" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dezentral</span></a> mit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> aller <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Keys" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Keys</span></a> besteht <em>echte <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em>!</p><ul><li>Außerdem funktionieren die einwandfrei via <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> und damit auch noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/anonym" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>anonym</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Ich helfe gern <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>"</em> und <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterates</span></a>"</em> darauf umzustellen...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@pixelcode" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pixelcode</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@phreaknerd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phreaknerd</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@melsdung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>melsdung</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://punk.cyber77.de/@nocci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nocci</span></a></span> das bzgl. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> halte ich bestenfalls für ne <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Werbel%C3%BCge" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Werbelüge</span></a>, weil nicht evidenzierbar!</p><ul><li>Anders als <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> fällt <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> jedenfalls nicht unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> und verlangt keine <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Pers%C3%B6nlichenDaten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PersönlichenDaten</span></a>.wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telefonnummer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telefonnummer</span></a>.</li></ul><p>Und wer <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monocles</span></a> oder anderen Anbietern nicht vertraut kann <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> selbst.hosten und hat bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> ohnehim doe Kontrolle über die Schlüssel.</p><ul><li>Bei <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> hingegen ist weder <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> noch <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> möglich!</li></ul><p>Alles andere ist naiver Glauben dass <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> für Nutzer*innen Knast riskieren würde…<br><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" translate="no" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">infosec.space/@kkarhan/1142345</span><span class="invisible">51915193036</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.ainmosni.eu/@ainmosni" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ainmosni</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rysiek</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p>Just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME will do the same for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GroupChats" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GroupChats</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Messaging" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Messaging</span></a> in general!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@phreaknerd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>phreaknerd</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://nrw.social/@melsdung" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>melsdung</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://punk.cyber77.de/@nocci" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nocci</span></a></span> bis darauf dass <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> auch unter <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> fällt und genauso zentralisiert ist wie <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telegram</span></a> und genauso <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a> in Sachen Nicht-Kooperation agiert...</p><ul><li>Geb' dir lieber <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>, denn das geht über <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>torproject</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tor</span></a> und selbst wenn bspw. <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> na Anfrage bekämen könnten die faktisch nichts brauchbares abgeben selbst wenn all deren Hardware beschlagnahmt würde.</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://norden.social/@AndreasEsch" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>AndreasEsch</span></a></span> Garnicht!</p><ul><li>Dieselben Leute würden auch abhitlern wenn das deren Nachbarn machen!</li></ul><p>Solche <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Gruppenzwang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gruppenzwang</span></a>|skinder kannste nur dazu zwingen, indem du konsequent auf <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> migrierst und dich allem anderen verweigerst!!!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vermont.masto.host/@Wyatt_H_Knott" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Wyatt_H_Knott</span></a></span> <em>precisely that</em></p><p>There are <em>evidently superior</em> alternatives like the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fediverse</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a>.</p>
Neustradamus :xmpp: :linux:<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kaidan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kaidan</span></a> 0.12.2 has been released (<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KaidanIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KaidanIM</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QXmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>QXmpp</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Qt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Qt</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KDE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KDE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) <a href="https://kaidan.im/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">kaidan.im/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://awawa.club/users/byte" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>byte</span></a></span> roflmao!</p><p>Unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>... ^</p>
Daniel Gultsch<p>There are no known security issues with "Siacs OMEMO" / OMEMO v0.3¹ despite of what some very loud Signal fans would like you to believe. It has been audited by a third party² who took a longer look at it than all of the Signal fans combined.</p><p>Yes, <a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> v0.7+ (or TWOMEMO 😜) is a cleaner spec with more features (most notably Stanza Content Encryption). That’s why we wrote it. I’m a co-author. That doesn’t mean v0.3 is insecure.</p><p>¹: <a href="https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0384-0.3.0.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-</span><span class="invisible">0384-0.3.0.html</span></a><br>²: <a href="https://conversations.im/omemo/audit.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">conversations.im/omemo/audit.p</span><span class="invisible">df</span></a></p><p><a href="https://gultsch.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> no it's not.</p><ul><li>Otherwise <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OrganizedCrime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OrganizedCrime</span></a> would choose <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> so hard, you'd be shutdown within weeks by the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FBI</span></a> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> would be forced to <em>"pull a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LavaBit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LavaBit</span></a>"</em> and face jailtime for obstruction of justice or snitch on users! </li></ul><p>Being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> solution subject to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> makes you inherently vulnerable <em>by your own choice</em> and thus trivial to shutdown compared to <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfCustody" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfCustody</span></a> of all the keys and true <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/decentralization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decentralization</span></a> as well as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHosting</span></a> (i.e. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a> et. al.] and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> [see <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/monoclesChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>monoclesChat</span></a> et. al.]!)</p><ul><li>Plus neither of those <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shill</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scams</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">like</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a>! </li></ul><p>And don't even get me started on you collecting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> (espechally <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumbers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumbers</span></a>) <em>for no valid reason</em>, (thus violating <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a>)...</p><ul><li>Not to mention relying ob <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/charity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>charity</span></a> and being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable to begin with!</li></ul><p>But yeah, I'll be patient to shout <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a>"</em> to your annoying cult of fanboys!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hachyderm.io/@janet_catcus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>janet_catcus</span></a></span> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a> may be a good option if you don't want to deal with half a dozen <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> keys...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p>Seriously, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> fans are just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/cultists" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cultists</span></a> who are unwilling to even consider the possibility that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> as a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/VCmoneyBurningParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VCmoneyBurningParty</span></a> isn't sustainable or that <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Mer__edith</span></a></span> and her predecessor, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Shitcoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Shitcoin</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Scam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scam</span></a> - shilling <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoBro</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Moxie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Moxie</span></a> ain't their best friends and would happily <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606070919/twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">risk jail for them</a>.</p><ul><li>I may sound like <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_B%C3%BChler_(Kaufmann)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hans Bühler</a> at this point, but <a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=tJoO2uWrX1M" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Signal has a stench</a> that is very much reminiscent of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AN%C3%98M" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ANØM</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoAG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoAG</span></a>!</li></ul><p>I <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ToldYaSo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ToldYaSo</span></a> and when the evidence is there, I do expect public apologies from every single one of you shills that <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/111968251463697943" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">live</a> on a <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TrustMeBro" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrustMeBro</span></a>!"</em> mentality believing every <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1thc5DSHwA" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">advertising lie</a>!</p><ul><li>Teach kids proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechLiteracy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechLiteracy</span></a> instead and <em>get gud</em> at it. Do a <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.earth/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@mastodon.earth</span></a></span> / <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@cryptoparty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>cryptoparty@chaos.social</span></a></span> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CryptoParty" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CryptoParty</span></a> and use <em>real <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/E2EE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>E2EE</span></a></em> like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PGP</span></a>/MIME & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> FFS!</li></ul><p>If Signal was actually secure, it would be used by <a href="https://archive.org/details/darknet_drug_lord" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">every</a> <a href="https://pastebin.com/GrV3uYh5" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">single</a> <em>"Darknet Drug Lord"</em>! </p><ul><li>But guess why they'd rather <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdab4T_CoN8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">teach</a> stuff like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OfflinePGP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OfflinePGP</span></a> method instead?</li></ul><p>Because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ComSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ComSec</span></a> requires <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpSec</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InfoSec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InfoSec</span></a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ITsec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ITsec</span></a>!</p>
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