Delete Chrome. Now.
Google is using its exceptionally powerful position to make *the browser itself* analyze your browsing behavior and serve that on a plate in the form of "cohorts" to anyone interested.
They are transforming Chrome into a "browsing-history-passport" - right now.
If you care about your intellectual freedom even a little bit, you must put Chrome out of your life as soon as possible. Support others doing the same.
Does this affect things built on either chromium or ungoogled-chromium? Do I need to switch away from Vivaldi?
@tn5421 @setthemfree I don't know, please add information if you read the code and find out how users are enrolled or how to disable #FLoC in chromium builds for #Fedora.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1946443
@tn5421 @setthemfree Can you find the code for their build? Something like https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/chromium/blob/acf081f1d3990da5dccc231dd57c1b65b30bf560/f/chromium.spec
https://vivaldi.com/source/
Eeep, pasted something that wasn't completely official quite yet. Consider it a sneak preview. In summary: We're working on it as we speak, and verifying that our current approach do neuter the experiment completely.
@WAHa_06x36 it simply doesn’t do any tracking or you can set to block the adds.
@yegorpetrov Tor itself does nothing to help here, though, does it? The Tor Browser is just Firefox, which doesn't have the problem in the first place.
You can run Chrome over Tor, and still be tracked.
@WAHa_06x36 alright. But I was saying that in this case it’s much more safer to use tor instead of chrome
@yegorpetrov It's equally safe to just using plain Firefox.
@setthemfree
Number one rule of a safe psychological experiment:
You tell people they are being experimented on.
@setthemfree what about chromium? (Although I use it exclusively for porn).
Maybe switch to ungoogled chromium?
Alternatively use clients and snatchers, some of which can be found at https://coom.tech
@setthemfree
@lis @setthemfree I will take a look. For everything else, I se firefox.
True, firefox sounds like a sane option. But I can't help thinking that it's just a matter of time when they introduce something similar or google decides to somehow enforce this new mechanism.
@setthemfree
@lis @setthemfree Yeah, that's possible, what other options are there?
@setthemfree And give #firefox a shot. It's a great browser.
@ilyess @setthemfree I had padding issues with Firefox for a while
@DGX268 @setthemfree padding issues with particular sites or everywhere you go? And what OS are you on?
I’ll say it again: I don’t have enough middle fingers to properly express my feelings towards Google right now ... and the horse they rode in on.
What exactly is the core issue? Just appears to be more specific and targeted data mining.
I'm asking out of genuine ignorance.
@setthemfree
Hell, I didn't need to be told.
When Chrome was first released, the fact that it was made by Google made me follow King Arthur's advice and RUN AWAAAYYYYY.
@setthemfree I already refuse to use Chrome, Chromium or any browser based on it
It should not be legal for an online ad company to own the most popular web browser.
@setthemfree Would this apply to Chromium as well or no?
@setthemfree Does this affect chrome derivatives like Brave?
@setthemfree AFAIK, it seems like the trial is highly reliant on Google services, and they mention that the trial is enabled if you have Chrome Sync on (which I'm pretty sure is now forbidden for use on any third-party Chromium browsers), so I don't think certain Chromium-based browsers (Vivaldi, Edge, Opera, Brave) are likely to be affected. Correct me if I am wrong.
@setthemfree (The worrying part is that some code may still be left over, which means that they could be affected after all...)
@setthemfree Yet another reason to switch (back) to #firefox!
@setthemfree Ohhhhh fucking fuck *that* fucking noise.
@Tim @setthemfree @fcgreg i would presume its blink/chromium-wide, sooner or later.
back to firefox. :-)
@jeremiah @Tim @setthemfree @fcgreg
firefox isn't a single bit better than chromium. research, it's all shit. mozilla corp is for profit and owned by same people on the end.
https://unixsheikh.com/articles/choose-your-browser-carefully.html
our only choice are forks now
librewolf
ungoogled-chromium
and recently I found
FireDragon Librewolf fork 🐉https://forum.garudalinux.org/t/firedragon-librewolf-fork/5018
@akeno @fcgreg @setthemfree @Tim @jeremiah #unixsheikh.com shows us we need to choose our news sources carefully. Tor users see: "Error: IP in X-Forwarded-For header is blocked: 185.220.100.252"
@koherecoWatchdog @fcgreg @setthemfree @Tim @jeremiah
What does that mean ? To me it looks like the site is censored by Tor network. correct me if I am wrong
@akeno @jeremiah @Tim @setthemfree @fcgreg Changing circuits gives "Error: IP in X-Forwarded-For header is blocked: 77.247.181.165". Also, that msg is in the body of the HTTPS-fetched page, so no mitm would be able to insert that error. It must be coming from unixsheikh.com. Not sure what the error msg means.
@koherecoWatchdog @jeremiah @Tim @setthemfree @fcgreg
"I am sorry about this, but I'm currently not self-hosting and my hosting provider blocks an IP address if it has been used in some malicious way (according to them) within a certain amount of time. This is not specific to Tor or VPN services, but in general."
@akeno @fcgreg @setthemfree @Tim @jeremiah i appreciate the explanation. Your hosting provider is bullshitting you. They blanket block all Tor IPs at all times. No matter when I check, it's always blocked, even if I try different exit nodes. Even more obnoxious: they also block archive.org, so Tor users are also blocked from seeing a mirror of the site. So I can't see that faq link you just sent either.
@koherecoWatchdog @fcgreg @setthemfree @Tim @jeremiah
iT'S NOT MINE. what are you some tor bigot? do you think you are safe with tor? you are not. most of tor is a honeypot . use some vpn or deploy your own.
@koherecoWatchdog @fcgreg @setthemfree @Tim @jeremiah
and how many days do you load one website? 🤣
@akeno @jeremiah @Tim @setthemfree @fcgreg A VPN is far less anonymous than Tor. It's naive to think a VPN service doesn't see both sides of the route +fingerprinting. "deploy your own" is even more foolish, as the other endpoint is no less yours than your origin. It's also a pushover move to access the website over a VPN-- you are dancing for an oppressor, bending over backwards to help them get your attention. Fuck that.
@koherecoWatchdog
OK. GL with your government run Tor nodes.😉
@Tim @setthemfree @jeremiah At the moment this is only in Chrome, but the underlying technology has some of its framework in Chromium. Browsers (like Brave) that already rip out any Google-cruft from Chromium won’t ever be affected, but we’ll see what happens with the rest of them.
@setthemfree This is why we can't have nice things.
@setthemfree how do I boost a toot to all my coworkers
@acdw is there a team mail address that all receive? they probably kick you out for spam tho
@davidak lol yeah
@setthemfree why is nobody using hardened Firefox (although, fuck Mozilla, that's a valid excuse. they suck)
@setthemfree I never even used Chrome once. It was unhealthy candy from day one.
Use and promote alternatives: I started to use Odysseus: https://odysseus.adrian.geek.nz
Quite happy with it!
