Greenwald: My Resignation From The Intercept
"The same trends of repression, censorship and ideological homogeneity plaguing the national press generally have engulfed the media outlet I co-founded, culminating in censorship of my own articles."
"our culture is demanding more and more submission to prevailing orthodoxies imposed by self-anointed monopolists of Truth and Righteousness, backed up by armies of online enforcement mobs"
@jz Oh shit o_O
@Khrys Non plutôt "c'est pas trop tôt!"...
@jz Ah oki j'avais pas du tout suivi...
@jz and combined with giving interviews to Tucker Carlson, I'm not sure what is going on there...
@marcel well his interview with Carlson was great, and key to convince some right-nutters they should stand with Assange. very strategic I may say.
The truth is: The Intercept turned into something else, close to what it was created to combat. The Reality Winner debacle is only one of the sources they blew over time. The shutdown of Snowden Archive? excuse me??
And now GG cannot report on Biden because everyone in NYC office is partisan? that's a lot..
@jz I would humbly suggest that if there is ever a time to be partisan for a shitty Democrat, it is now. I would be, if I were a US Citizen.
@marcel they were saying the exact same to get HClinton elected.... Like they can't admit that both can be equally corrupt and dangerous....
And *even though* it was the case, would that justify to censor honest, independant investigative journalist? Is that the values of the "democratic" party?
@jz in 2016 the threat of a Trump Presidency was merely theoretical. Imagine the damage he would do if he is reelected.
I think under the circumstances the modus operandi has to be changed from "usual democratic debate" to "shit, first let's elect the only available chance to getting back to reasonable and predictable standards - and after archieving this, let's work on making things better".
Sometimes choices in politics become fundamental, and you have to take them step by step.
1/ "change from democratic..." is a NO. period.
2/ if more Trump means:
- more hardship within the US that prompts more organization of converging social movements
- still no more new wars in the rest of the world (how many would have Clinton started at this stage? Iran, etc.?)
- more loss of influence for the US worldwide as nobody can take the clown seriously
what you call "reasonable and predictable standards" are endless wars, exploitation and fuckery.
..but really: 1/.
@jz adding to that, and having witnessed Julian becoming a possible tool of Russian PsyOps in 2016 - I can understand the desire of the Intercept to hold back some of the reporting that is going on around Hunter and Joe Biden right now, one week before the election.
"possible tool", from you?
Like if this *entire* RussiaGate thing wasn't completely disproved as a hoax.... pff.... :(
sometimes the "PsyOp" is the PsyOp.... :/
@jz I didn't say he was willingly or knowingly!
Intercept: I can understand the editorial decisions they made - especially in light of all the disinformation that is going on. BTW, this is not censorship. Glenn is still very able to publish his stuff elsewhere.
I believe that even for Journalists there have to be moral boundaries which may contradict the usual standards of independent journalism, that is if you are in the process of dismantling the very basis of journalism itself.
@marcel you said he was "possibly" which has been disproved. Forensics evidence seem to indicate (including measurement of bandwidth and I guess other routing traces/information) that DNC email can only be a *leak* and not a "hack"....
so whos' PsyOping the PsyOp?
On the rest, spot on: it is about making, or nor, compromises with the fundamentals. I am glad for ppl who don't make them to exist (and would be even if i disagreed with them).
Also note that it's the ill-named "Democratic" party in the US who has been pressuring twitter to censor every traces of links to journalism that seems to be based on actual facts (even if trash and shit that i am personally not interested in at all. I don't doubt the Biden clan can be as corrupt as the Trump or Clinton clan), labelling it a hoax, etc.. and it's partisans applauding/helping the measure.
Who's dismantling the very basis of journalism? Where is hope in that shit?
"Glenn Greenwald RESPONDS: Why I Left The Intercept Over Censorship"
@marcel I didn't know he did an itw with Carlson about his resignation, i thought you mentioned the one he did about JA, which is in my view excellent (also as a way to tailor one's discourse to their audience, without compromising..) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=hrYN3e4sq8I
Also now watched his itw about resignation w/ Carlson. https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=l8pkCZBjgrk
What do you disagree with? His criticism of the Democratic Party, the CIA, and propaganda in the media sounds pretty powerful and uncompromising to me...
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