@breizhux@mastodon.zaclys.com As far as I know, some XMPP clients support OMEMO crypto.

I know about Langis. But it's doesn't solve the problem, Which is Moxie being an asshole to third party clients' dev.

As far as I know, Langis relies only on one person, for one platform (google-free android). If Moxie weren't an asshole, maybe non-android Linux phones users (Sailfish, Ububtouch, PureOS, maybe even maemo-leste in the future, @Hawk1291 - 1/4

or whatever) could have, or could get (well-maintained, and up-to-date) clients¹ for Signal. Or at least, chances for that to happen would be higher. Moxie clearly doesn't give a fuck about non-android users. Not many devs would want to get involved with Signal, and of Moxie's "asshole-itude" is one of the reasons.

Also, Signal choice to use phone number as an ID of annoying. What if you want to communicate with someone *only on @breizhux@mastodon.zaclys.com @Hawk1291 - 2/4

Signal* but don't want to give them your phone number, or want to use "one or multiple pseudonymes, independent from other PII", or just doesn't want to restart from scratch when you change your phone number ? The answer is, like usual, "If you want to use it otherwise than what I decided, go fuck yourself"

1. I mean "real" clients with serious work behind, not some unsecure web crap (a la electron) done quick and dirty, in a @breizhux@mastodon.zaclys.com @Hawk1291 - 3/4

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