Discord is valued at 1.65 _billion_ dollars.

What kind of person can look at that and go "ah, yes, this free chat service is totally not gonna screw us out of private data for profit"?

@spacekookie licensing all the content you're uploading there to discord, what could possibly go wrong :'D (the ToS screenshot is older since I tried to bringing up that topic to artists I'm friend with who started using discord after that Tumblr thingy)

@rachel @spacekookie How could they run the service without something like that licence? Not sure about the “perpetual” bit, probably just lawyers being cautious, but all the rest is what they're there to do.

@edavies @rachel @spacekookie they can't. there's a reason this is standard in EVERY online service tos.

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@kauko Bullshit! They don't "need" a license to "adapt, modify, publish, create derivative work of" users' content (it's probably illegal in Europe). All they need is to host it.

They don't need a "perpetual license", and it's not "just lawyers being cautious". Cautious lawyers would know that perpetual clause is illegal in Europe (The "right to be forgotten", the GRDP.).

And it's NOT in "EVERY online service tos".

@edavies @rachel @spacekookie

@kauko The reason why it's on every online proprietary, centralized, for-profit service tos, has a name: surveillance capitalism.

@edavies @rachel @spacekookie

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