Entre l’appel des travailleur·ses du numérique (1 000 signatures !), et l’appel de différentes professions *aux* informaticien·nes, dans la tech, on commence à réfléchir à nos moyens d'actions.

Grèves, bannières, blocages ? Petit état des lieux des discussions ici : ⬇️

kemenaran.winosx.com/posts/que

Avec une question : pour des informaticien·nes, bloquer un système pour protester, est-ce légitime ?
Et comment s’y prendre ?

@pmorinerie
Concerning your question, blocking a computer system without legitimate cause is likely to not go down well in a court of law. That is because you are denying others a legal right (un bien juridique, in civil law) without due cause. It would seem to go beyond your right to cease an activity or engage in legitimate forms of protest.

There is however no straightforward answer, let alone a generic one.

PS: Something that might come as a shock to many French: protest ≠ vandalism.

@0 (as you are responding to a french article, may I take the liberty of answering into french?)

Oui, les actions de blocage (piquets de grève, etc.) sont souvent techniquement illégales.

Mais il me semble aussi qu'elles sont très souvent tolérées. Elles seraient condamnées – mais aucune action en justice n'est lancée.

Je me demande donc : qu'est-ce qui fait que ces actions sont tolérées ? L'habitude, le rapport de force ? Et comment construire la même chose dans les métiers du numérique ?

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@pmorinerie

> may I take the liberty of answering into french?

Of course. Ça me gave quand les gens changent leur langue !

> Oui, les actions de blocage (piquets de grève, etc.) sont souvent techniquement illégales

Un piquet de grève n'est pas une action de blocage.

The idea is to persuade (or “shame”) co-workers into joining the strike, which is entirely legal.

@pmorinerie
As to actually occupying a workplace with the idea of interfering with production, it comes down to national and even local custom + the actual circumstances whether this may be considered as an extension of one's right to strike (and therefore legitimate) or not. It is usually tolerated provided that it is done peacefully and the company concerned takes no action.

@pmorinerie

> Et comment construire la même chose dans les métiers du numérique ?

Using any form of aggression to make one's point is a remarkably poor strategy as it suggests a lack of solid arguments and is likely to be responded in kind.

@pmorinerie
Ceasing to attend to a system during a strike is probably ok unless negotiated otherwise. Preventively shutting down a system that cannot run without supervision is also probably ok (best to negotiate first). OTOH actively interfering with a system's normal functioning, apart from unprofessional is also unlikely to come with a plausible legal defence.

@pmorinerie
Note that tampering with information management systems can be more severely punished than the destruction of physical goods (up to 5 years + €300K in ).

@0 pour garder la discussion la plus claire et cohérente possible, j’aimerais bien limiter ce thread au français. Est-ce que ça t’irait ?

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